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Great. But now I need to learn VB 2008 Pro and there are not any good books out there nor any one good source on the internet for learning. Gone are the good user guides that were packaged with VB3 - VB6. And MSDN is NOT the way to learn. It is a conglomerate of tidbits that one is left to try to put together themselves. It's just a hodgepodge slapped together by some tech idiot that's never been out of the basement. Can we collaboratively put something together ourselves to help us help ourselves?

129.24.51.213 18:33, 25 April 2008 (UTC)Oracle Forms used to suck but are looking pretty good now.

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